1. Todd Carnes
    March 13, 2016 @ 8:38 am

    Thanks, Nina. That was an excellent article. You’ve given us much food for thought.

    • Nina Gryphon
      March 13, 2016 @ 1:21 pm

      Thank you, Todd! This chart has so much stuff going on that I have a lot more to say, but felt it would be far too long for one article.

  2. Eric
    March 13, 2016 @ 12:35 pm

    Thanks for the insight! The essential dignity of the two parties’ significators is so poor that, being fairly inexperienced with mundane and competition charts in general, I had a very hard time favoring one planet over the other. That being said, I do recall saying to myself when I first looked at this chart something like a year and a half ago “the candidates are going to be their own worst enemies!”

    • Nina Gryphon
      March 13, 2016 @ 1:25 pm

      Eric, I agree. It occurred to me that perhaps it meant a third party candidate could win, though that seems unlikely right now. In the sample of election year Aries Ingresses, that only happened once, which is far too small a sample size from which to draw any real conclusions.


  3. Kelly
    March 15, 2016 @ 10:44 am

    Great post Nina!

    • Nina Gryphon
      March 18, 2016 @ 3:47 pm

      Thank you, Kelly. Time will tell if it’s right, but horaries I have read so far with Mars in Sagittarius seem to point to a very militant and even violent attitude. Sagittarius is the only zodiac sign that carries a weapon.

  4. Thorsten
    March 18, 2016 @ 1:59 am

    Hi all,
    thank you Nina for the input… glad to hear, there will be no trump time… although i must say, i came to different conclusion – what about the simple rule: planet ON the cusp is controlling the house , whereas planet IN the cusp is under control … this would favour the trump side… although jup might be weaker due to retro …
    Interestingly MARS and SAT are close to station… that seems further worrying as these mar/sat-forces loose control, they tend to “shoot in all directions” to my experience…
    besides: 2017 the will be an eclipse over the US – the shadow sort of splits
    the country in diagonal… see here:

    gr. t. from europe

    • Nina Gryphon
      March 18, 2016 @ 4:07 pm

      Hi Thorsten,

      I don’t know if anyone really believes that Trump is likely to win the general election. Certainly people on the left and right fear it, but he cannot even reliably capture the majority of all right-wing voters. The other big question is whether Trump is Jupiter at all. It is possible that the Republican convention will be contested, meaning that despite him getting the most candidates, the party will simply decline to nominate him. As I mentioned in another comment, we have had one election won by a third party candidate, so as far as my technique goes, a third party candidacy is mostly uncharted territory.

      The idea that planets on the outside of a cusp control that house (I think John Frawley writes about this) does not seem to work in this method. I refer you to, for instance, the election of 1884, when the Democratic challenger, Grover Cleveland, defeated the Republican nominee – the Republicans controlled the White House for many years until this election. The Republican nominee would be Mercury, ruler of the tenth house of the incumbent party, sitting on the fourth house cusp. Under the controlling-via-cusp theory, the Republicans should have won, but they lost. There are other compelling testimonies in that chart, but this is not one.

      The U.S. has been polarized for many decades now, but what is interesting about August 2017’s eclipse is that it will be the first with a path of totality crossing the USA’s Pacific coast and Atlantic coast since 1918, according to Wikipedia. You are very right in that this will be a major event in U.S. astrology.

      Best wishes,

      I believe these are “interesting times,” per the Chinese curse theory.

      • I. Loveastrology
        January 28, 2019 @ 9:10 am

        John Frawley’s method does work. If you read the book Sports Astrology carefully, you will see on page 95, what I’ve shortened to this:

        When Lord 1 is Lord 4, and Lord 7 is Lord 10,
        priority must be given to Lords 1 and 7, which are our main significators.
        So here we have to manage without Lords 10 and 4.

        And the second thing is: Antiscion. From Sports Astrology page 42:

        … no antiscia: no judgement.

        These two rules, plus the rule:
        just-outside the cusp = planet controls house
        just-inside the cusp = house controls planet

        should be enough. Now it’s much easier to see. Obama AND Hillary (Jupiter) are going home, to the fourth house, via antiscion. Jupiter is also like an army besieging a city, but withdrawing: In detriment. Feeling sick. It’s retrograde. Therefore losing power.
        Meanwhile Trump (Mercury) via antiscion, is promoted to the 10th house, which in an election is what it’s all about: It’s the government. So far on the 2016 election.

        Now for the 1884 election:
        The Republican candidate is Jupiter.
        The Democratic candidate is Mercury.
        Jupiter via antiscion, lands just on the outside of the 7th house cusp. Which would normally have given him control over the Democrat: Grover Cleveland. But:
        Saturn is thwarting and stymieing him, Pluto, Neptune and antiscion-Mars are like dark clouds approaching. That doesn’t look good for our Republican: James G. Blaine.
        Then to Mercury which rules Grover Cleveland, it lands safely in the now sunny 10th house. Sunny, because both the Sun and Mercury via antiscion, wind up in the 10th and are no longer seperated by the 4th house cusp.
        Blaine seemed to have a hold over Cleveland because of the latter’s illegitimate child-scandal. Until Blaine’s spokesman, Reverend Dr. Samuel Burchard, made an anti-Catholic slur. The statement energized the Irish and Catholic vote in New York City heavily against Blaine, costing him New York state and the election by the narrowest of margins.

        • Nina Gryphon
          January 28, 2019 @ 11:22 am

          Thank you for sharing your insights and for looking at actual charts. One of our challenges is that all techniques will work for a handful of charts, but the only thing that worked on most of the charts was the aspect technique that I explain in the analyses of charts going back to the mid 1800s. I have yet to see anyone demonstrate a different technique that worked on all of those horoscopes, for every single election year. If they did, I would be very happy to use it.

          Kind regards,

        • I.Loveastrology
          February 20, 2019 @ 1:14 pm

          Self correction: About Saturn in the 1884 election, it cannot be dispositor of the Moon and Malefic at the same time. So instead of harming Jupiter, read that Saturn as helping the Descendant.
          BTW, Jupiter itself is also dispositor of the Moon, helping the Descendant.
          That means it can’t be Lord 1, because being Moon’s dispositor trumps rulership. So Jupiter is nullified as Lord 1. The 1st house does have Moon bodily as well as via antiscion, so quite formidable, but too far from the Ascendant. Not enough to win. While the two Moon-dispositors, Saturn and Jupiter are very close to the Descendant, which strengthens the Descendant more than the Ascendant.
          Meanwhile: I’m working on a method that always works. Much positivity to self-critical astrologers everywhere. We are fallible, the planets are always right.

          • I.Loveastrology
            July 6, 2019 @ 7:41 am

            2020-aries-ingress-prediction: 19 March 2020-23:49:50,
            Washington DC.
            First, use a chart with Antiscia.
            Morinus is a good program for this.
            Start with the Antiscion Moon. It’s at 16° Scorpio, which strengthens the Ascendant: Trump.
            Mars:Lord 1 is Trump also, is held in exaltation by his
            supporters. On top of that, Mars is the Antiscion Moon’s
            dispositor. Mars ends up via antiscion in the first house,
            filling it with Moon-power albeit separated from the Ascendant
            by a sign-boundary. This means it’s only a little strengthening. That boundary also keeps Pluto’s negativity at bay, as well as the planets Jupiter and Saturn. Jupiter, as Lord 4 (Democrats), isn’t comfortable in that role, because it’s in fall. Antiscion Jupiter or The Democrats are “caught” somewhat in Trump’s house, the 1st house, and also between Ant.Pluto and Mars. Ant.Jupiter’s essential dignity stays the same:Fall. Antiscion doesn’t change that. The Dems are in a bind and they’re not happy. The Dem. candidate (Venus) in Taurus is in Domicile. Lots of essential dignity.
            Feeling good, because of that, but less effectual, because of 6th house’s accidental dignity. As Antiscion Venus jumps to Leo in the 9th house, its essential dignity from Taurus doesn’t change, but it’s accidental dignity does, from house to house. Except..
            it’s in the 9th house. A low accidental dignity house. That by
            itself doesn’t have to mean defeat, but added to the Democrats
            (Jupiter) in fall -and- between a rock (Pluto) and a hard place
            (Mars) in the enemy’s (1st) house, does mean defeat.
            Saturn disposits the bodily Moon in Aquarius and jumps via
            antiscion to the 1st, which is Trump’s house. Again he’s not
            benefitting fully from this, because of the sign-boundary
            keeping that Saturn=Moon-power from reaching the Ascendant
            properly. Because Moon is People, something is blocking Trump
            from getting a popular vote victory as big as it would have
            been, had the Ant.Moon and the Moon’s dispositors been closer
            to the Ascendant. It is still more than enough, though.
            But the North Node will bring the final victory. Often
            this is the electoral vote.
            The Republicans, Lord 10, Mercury, is the only ruler trined
            by the North Node. That’s often a telltale sign of a win. The Democrats (Jupiter) nor their candidate (Venus) make an aspect to the North Node. Furthermore, bodily North Node in Cancer, disposited by the Moon. This helps Trump. Antiscion North Node in Gemini, disposited by Mercury, helps the Republicans, therefore Trump. So Trump will win in 2020.

            Hoping very much you’re alright after the earthquake, Nina and wishing you all the best.

  5. Thorsten
    March 18, 2016 @ 3:21 am

    2. I also wanted to point out that progressed sun of Trump by the end of the year will enter the AC…! And I was wondering, if this could show him LITERALLY going HOME… rather than to the WHITE HOUSE…

    • Nina Gryphon
      March 18, 2016 @ 4:11 pm

      Very interesting, Thorsten! I did not know that his progressed Sun will conjoin the Ascendant, but you may be right. Certainly a presidential run would lift his profile. Also note that he will enter a Gemini profected year. This is opposed by the transiting Saturn in Sagittarius, which will also oppose Mercury (his Lord of the Year) in the Solar Return for 2016. I sense a big disappointment.


  6. Leo-poet
    April 3, 2016 @ 9:02 am

    I am not an experienced at reading ingress charts. However, one thought I have, when looking at this chart, is that it almost seems like the Republicans are intentionally destroying their chances of winning the WH. Mars rules the radical 12th house-of-self-undoing, and he sits on the AC, which is the Republican’s turned 10th house of victory. Saturn in the first squaring Jupiter (the Repub’s sig) also shows them blocking their own leader. Even the MR of Mercury and Jupiter can be read this way—Jupiter in Virgo on the 10th shows the Repubs using their own weaknesses to protect the Dem’s control of the WH. I have read a few news articles which suggest that the Republicans may just concede this election cycle because their own party is in such dissarray right now.

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